New York Women Leaders Association NY Chapter Meeting: How to Thrive as a Resilient Leader.
Julia Sheedy, of Loretto, discusses ideas and strategies for thriving as a resilient leader at the New York Women Leaders Association Chapter Meeting.
Transcript
so now we're gonna go to our next presentation so Julie can you say hello and self introduction hi everyone I'm a little bit humbled being the company of all these great women this afternoon and I hope I can do you justice because we've talked a lot about resilience already today uh but I'm I'm pleased to be here we heard I heard the word change I heard the word resilience several times seems like it's the buzzword of 2024 isn't it and as I thought about this presentation today and what sums up resilient women for me and and I've heard a lot of this in our dialogue already is uh a fun quote I I love from uh Ellena Roosevelt a woman is like a teabag you can't tell how strong she is until you put her in hot water and I think about that when we start to talk about resilience and hopefully I won't be too redundant with the folks today that have already come before me but um as I approach this just a little bit about me um I'm Julie shidy I the chief marketing and engagement officer for Loro Health which is a long-term care nonprofit health system in central New York um I'd love to be an author and and do a lot of other things and I think many of you have inspired me to think about my next steps today but um I've worked in healthcare Communications throughout the majority of my career I've had a rich career I've been in um Medtech biotech telecommunications both for-profit nonprofit profit family-owned companies uh and I've now been with Loretto for eight years a very Mission oriented company which was something I was really passionate about when I made a pretty significant career pivot myself about eight years ago uh but that's also just part of me and I think as we talk about resilience these are also aspects of me that I think uh shape what kind of resilient person I am I'm a crisis expert in my job um but I'm also a divorce Survivor um I'm a mom graduate uh I'm a half marathon two timer and I I don't say that to brag because I am not an8 minute Miler for those of you who are real Runners but it was a bucket list item for me um and I say this because these are pivot Points in my life that have helped me adapt and become more resilient and I've learned something from each of them I have winds losses Battle Scars that have taught me how to bounce back whether the storm and be a better version of myself my family and the people I Le and I think that's important as we think about this topic today because we're all sums of parts of our experiences right and how we choose to navigate through these pivot Points in our life and the learnings we take from them are really what shapes our ability to be resilient leaders and individuals it's managing that stress it's navigating the change we've all talked about showing and how we show up to show empathy and even
love so what I think about what does resilience even mean one of the best definitions I've seen refers to our ability to adapt to stressors to really maintain our well-being in the face of adversity it's how we bounce back from these difficult experiences it's not a trait that people have or don't have uh but it's how how we build those experiences how we come back from those in a healthy way and there's really four dimensions that are really common that people talk about um psychological that's our mental capacity and how we deal or adapt to those that uncertainty those difficulties those adversities in life what's our mental fortitude and then there's the emotional side of course how do we react respond and show up so how do we not only navigate the emotions we're feeling and not swell them how do we deal with them even those negative emotions such as fear anger or sadness emotionally resilient people understand their emotions and their causes and even in a crisis they can maintain that realistic sense of optimism and make proactive use for that both internally and externally and how they manage through those situations for themselves for their families for their teams physical resilience is another Dynamic of course we've talked a little bit about it today it's how does your body adapt to the physical challenges to help you maintain the stamina and the strength that you need to navigate navate through challenging times but also heal in a prompt and effective way you know Ariana Huffington wrote a book The Sleep Revolution and I know we're all all um women leaders we probably at at times have committed 18 hours a day to work and then balancing our families I've heard that mentioned several times we've probably sacrificed ourselves many times even sleep in order to be what we' think of think of as more productive but she actually found that for those that do that and the extra work that's put in results in 11 loss days of productivity a year so if we're not really thinking about ourselves and how we balance all of these elements we're not doing ourselves a good service and and really being able to show up and be resilient that's what it means to develop those habits and then of
course a little bit of feedback feedback can you guys still hear me okay okay um and of course social resilience I would say is not just how who we surround ourselves with we all talked about circles people that we have that's that are in our friendship Circle our families our spiritual circles it's how we show up for the people that surround us and I was thinking about this as we were talking today and I had a a really strong visual come to mind and I don't know how many of you have heard about the tragedy we faced here in Syracuse New York earlier this week where we lost to uh prominent well-respected Law Officers in a in a tragic accident and the visuals of the community here in central New York that showed up to celebrate and mourn each of those individuals was so powerful and that's what I mean when I say how do we show up for each other what who do we lean on to have that moral and emotional support from our community our family and our friends
so what do I think of when I think of what a resilient leader looks like so as I put together this presentation I had a flashback to the photo that's actually up in the right hand corner that's me at work I shifted from being a marketing leader to a crisis manager 247 and anyone in New York knows what the long-term care industry faced here uh in the midst of the covid crisis and and I actually laughed out loud because we had a superhero day for our uh Healthcare employees here to try and motivate them we were feeling the stress of this pandemic and um feeling like we were starting to turn a corner and I made my own cape and said resilience is my new superpower this was in May of 2020 so as we know back then we thought oh we're going to turn a corner in the spring and this is all going to be over right and of course this is before I faced an attack by antivaxers that came across from throughout the ation on our small community and had to navigate through something that was a really challenging crisis for my facility and I just I thought about that because we were thinking about that even at the time um and thank God for my husband who bought me the pelaton that's up in the upper left corner for Christmas right before this started because saved my life and it taught me the importance of self-care and what I needed for Recovery because I would have either uh drank a bottle of wine every night when I came home or done something different but I knew I needed to take care of myself to get myself through this time and I think that's what we need to keep in mind as well we talked about self-care uh the other photo in the mail is actually my daughter uh she was born with a profound curing Lots in her left ear so she's profoundly deaf in her left ear when I think of uh what does resiliency look like to me she always comes to me and I aspire to be like her because I think of what she has navigated in her own life she went to nursing school she knew she wanted to be a nurse she started school right before Co happened when school closed she stepped up and she volunteered to come and work for me at my facility she took the CNA class she stepped up and volunteered to raise her hand to be in a a dedicated Co unit and be there until she could go back to school she's now a nicku nurse uh for a significant trauma Hospital in Rochester and I I say that again because through it all she navigated it with great and bounce back and uh I disrespect that so I I say that to you because I'd say resiliency comes in so many forms and I encourage you to look in the mirror and ask yourself about some of these characteristics that are common to a resilient leader how flexible are you you know a car bumper is in place to provide the bounce back in the event of collision to protect it its passengers a leader is like the car bumper in an organization they can handle bad news disgruntled opinions and listen and respond constructively how do you bounce back how do you adapt to change and see different perspectives and possibilities and are you agile can you pivot and change direction as quickly as a need arises When leaders are open to suggestions and willing to change how they do things they're agile and challenging circumstances resilient leaders can change their focus and they can foster High performing teams with this character istic and then realistic being realistic and optimistic and I say those hand inand because a resilient leader has to be simultaneously realistic and optimistic they can recognize the problem and look beyond the current situation to paint a positive picture of what's on the other side of the challenging situation they can acknowledge the problem or the bad feelings associated with it but they can also be optimistic about getting to the other side and not get sucked into the black hole of negativity of pessimism and that kind of leads into emotional intelligence and I talk a lot about this with my team and the people that I coach and Mentor the ability to understand your own emotions but also recognize the emotions of those around you and I really talk about this from a leadership perspective especially uh how you show up every day yourself but also how you recognize and understand how someone else is feeling and responding and can can react to that and help bring them through a situation in a calm U manner as well um locus of control this is an interesting one talk a lot about this with my CEO um and it's it's trying to avoid that spiral of getting panicked by what you can't control this is a resilient leader has a great ability to focus on what can be controlled and breaks down situations into controllable and uncontrollable categories to make those situations more manageable instead of getting sucked into the drama triangle and it's okay if you didn't answer yes to all these questions we're all a work in progress but these are skills that are learned practiced refined over time what can you do today to be a more resilient leader today and tomorrow and I encourage you to practice some of this so what are some of those things that I think of and ways to increase your resiliency and a lot of these we've touched on today um but I recently read in a Forbes Magazine an article about a study that highlights women's resilience which said resiliency is more than just the ability to bounce back quickly it's the ability to recover healthfully in a healthier way with a better perspective but it takes practice right and a commitment to self is not just caring for everyone else I I I give a shout out to Bri I saw your comments I'm always overwhelmed I still feel overwhelmed sometimes every day but how we use the tools we have in our toolbox and how we manage our emotions and our feelings to navigate through that is is critical to our ability to be resilient and to be good leaders and individuals so it's not surprising that women who feel resilient personally show uh higher self-care Trends 45 of those that that for survey said mental health is a top priority in 43% schedule regular me time now I'd be curious in the chat to get an ideas of how you show up to schedule me time you know they say there's a reason that flight attendant always tell parents of small children to put their oxygen Mass on first if you're not taking proper care of yourself how can you be effective at caring for others and I hear my CEO say that all the time so think about reframing how you think and practicing thought awareness and a lot of that is accepting that change as part of living I know our speakers have touched on it today avoid seeing a crisis as an insurmountable problem resilient people understand that although a situation or crisis may seem overwhelming it may not have much of an impact over the long term and that's a lot of how we even approach crisis management when I'm dealing with the media is what do I want the outcome to be how can I be as transparent as I need to be and help calmly navigate that situation for the best outcome from an organization setting goals of course doing something regularly as we've talked about especially self-care um I know we've talked about I love the questions that Megan had the and I won't go through those but but kindness doing something for yourself every day I purposely block spots on my calendar three times a week just to have thinking time so that I can be more productive and I also made a conscious effort a couple of years ago recognizing I was trying to balance my family my husband time my work time made a conscious decision that I don't check emails on the weekend if there's an emergency my leadership team knows how to reach me they can text me I get online but I'm giving that time back to myself and my family and that's my balance and I loved actually the comment about from Cheryl about integration it's less about balance and more about integration how do you infuse that in your life to give that time and that permission to yourself to give that time back because often as women we don't we're not we're afraid to give that permission to oursel that it's okay to do these things for myself and I get a facial twice a month or or every two months it's a luxury but it's said you know what I earned it I've I've worked since I was 16 I'm going to give this back to myself and that is my quiet time my phone is off so whatever it is that makes you happy Do It um and that's practicing self-care and building your circle um we all talk about this I would say building your circle is important with your friends we talk about mentors but I also when I coach people on this find the Y to your yang find someone who's going to challenge your thinking and challenge you to be better but is someone you trust and can be a great advisor we often lean toward the people that are going to just make us feel good or think like we do and I found a couple of times the person in in my circle who really makes me think differently helps me see that new perspective and and really come up with that alternative solution to a problem I might be facing so I encourage you to do that and then choose happiness trying to maintain a hope a hopeful it's easy to say but what's interesting and I look at my own circle of friends I've probably had more conversations in the last two years about my female friends mostly those who work wanting to really find Joy again in their jobs do something that gives them purpose not feel like they have to work hard to earn a paycheck it's been it's been an interesting Dynamic and some of it's an outcome of covid but I also think it's it's really recognizing that there's more life than a trying to be just a hard worker and a great leader for an organization we have to show up for ourselves so again I encourage you to pick one or two of these simple tips to focus on practice pay attention I just actually myself came off of a a great leadership program called the Stan Academy highly recommend it uh great focus on purposeful leadership but one of the things that we were encouraged to do with our coach was journaling and some of it wasn't easy it wasn't a great practice but I found that that practice really changed the dynamic of my year and has made me a better leader and a better person and and a lot of it helped me in my relationships with my family so a couple of resources I know we've had some ideas throwing out these are the things that I like that that I have reflected on as benefits to me as I think about all of the these things that I'm trying to balance and become more resilient of course I'm sure all of us have read B bernee Brown She interestingly also talks a lot about spirituality and finding uh and how finding purpose fuels resiliency and I think that's a dynamic we haven't hit on as much today and I think that's an interesting perspective she brings but I also love the power of Ted and if nobody's read the power or some of you haven't read the power of Ted it's a fable based story but it really talks about how to shift your perspective from drowning in the drama triangle and really looking at how can you be a Creator and a coach and taking personal accountability for the outcomes you really want I I've done this with my own team recently and I've seen such a shift in how we approach things that we're hearing in the organization you know workplace can be a a drama time time suck and how do you pull yourself out of that how do you change the dynamic and it's a great read I also love the com app that's often my um my morning ride into work I stopped listening to the radio because I found the intensity of it was just amping me up so I'd come into work already ready to roll I love things in the com app I also found the new happy so you know we say be positive be happy this is just a light kind of fun way to just get tips on um really refocusing your mindset and not trying and understand you can't you can't um control everything um I also have gotten into meditation and I'd say it's not easy for me there are days when I'd love to go home and chug three glasses of wine then uh try to practice yoga or sit through a 10-minute meditation session but I'm getting better with practice uh and I also was encouraged by my coach my professional coach to try centering and I will tell you it was horrible in the first couple of months because I sitting still as a consumate multitasker was incredibly difficult for me to just sit there and center and and clear my head but now it's a practice that I'm looking to extend into my own team to start meetings off with so that we're focused um and I I'll just kind of leave you with those tools the last thing I'll share here and I thought this was a fun tool to share with each of you I did this myself there's an online site that has a resiliency quiz you can go through in about five minutes and it will um show you how resilient you are and it'll give you some recommendations on some things that you can uh you know maybe think about in trying to improve in certain areas because we're not perfect we could practice different things but it all just helps end up bringing us to a place where we feel healthier and happy so I'll stop there because I know we've had a lot today I'll stop sharing just so that I can see everybody see if there's uh questions or any thoughts about what I what I've shared with
you I don't know if there's anything in the chat I well Julie thank you so much yes I've been a terrible host today and I've let us go completely over time so for Q&A maybe Julie can stay around for a minute and answer some of the questions that have come in on the Q&A but I just want to say thank you that was a fantastic presentation and we really appreciate your time today sure sure
love so what I think about what does resilience even mean one of the best definitions I've seen refers to our ability to adapt to stressors to really maintain our well-being in the face of adversity it's how we bounce back from these difficult experiences it's not a trait that people have or don't have uh but it's how how we build those experiences how we come back from those in a healthy way and there's really four dimensions that are really common that people talk about um psychological that's our mental capacity and how we deal or adapt to those that uncertainty those difficulties those adversities in life what's our mental fortitude and then there's the emotional side of course how do we react respond and show up so how do we not only navigate the emotions we're feeling and not swell them how do we deal with them even those negative emotions such as fear anger or sadness emotionally resilient people understand their emotions and their causes and even in a crisis they can maintain that realistic sense of optimism and make proactive use for that both internally and externally and how they manage through those situations for themselves for their families for their teams physical resilience is another Dynamic of course we've talked a little bit about it today it's how does your body adapt to the physical challenges to help you maintain the stamina and the strength that you need to navigate navate through challenging times but also heal in a prompt and effective way you know Ariana Huffington wrote a book The Sleep Revolution and I know we're all all um women leaders we probably at at times have committed 18 hours a day to work and then balancing our families I've heard that mentioned several times we've probably sacrificed ourselves many times even sleep in order to be what we' think of think of as more productive but she actually found that for those that do that and the extra work that's put in results in 11 loss days of productivity a year so if we're not really thinking about ourselves and how we balance all of these elements we're not doing ourselves a good service and and really being able to show up and be resilient that's what it means to develop those habits and then of
course a little bit of feedback feedback can you guys still hear me okay okay um and of course social resilience I would say is not just how who we surround ourselves with we all talked about circles people that we have that's that are in our friendship Circle our families our spiritual circles it's how we show up for the people that surround us and I was thinking about this as we were talking today and I had a a really strong visual come to mind and I don't know how many of you have heard about the tragedy we faced here in Syracuse New York earlier this week where we lost to uh prominent well-respected Law Officers in a in a tragic accident and the visuals of the community here in central New York that showed up to celebrate and mourn each of those individuals was so powerful and that's what I mean when I say how do we show up for each other what who do we lean on to have that moral and emotional support from our community our family and our friends
so what do I think of when I think of what a resilient leader looks like so as I put together this presentation I had a flashback to the photo that's actually up in the right hand corner that's me at work I shifted from being a marketing leader to a crisis manager 247 and anyone in New York knows what the long-term care industry faced here uh in the midst of the covid crisis and and I actually laughed out loud because we had a superhero day for our uh Healthcare employees here to try and motivate them we were feeling the stress of this pandemic and um feeling like we were starting to turn a corner and I made my own cape and said resilience is my new superpower this was in May of 2020 so as we know back then we thought oh we're going to turn a corner in the spring and this is all going to be over right and of course this is before I faced an attack by antivaxers that came across from throughout the ation on our small community and had to navigate through something that was a really challenging crisis for my facility and I just I thought about that because we were thinking about that even at the time um and thank God for my husband who bought me the pelaton that's up in the upper left corner for Christmas right before this started because saved my life and it taught me the importance of self-care and what I needed for Recovery because I would have either uh drank a bottle of wine every night when I came home or done something different but I knew I needed to take care of myself to get myself through this time and I think that's what we need to keep in mind as well we talked about self-care uh the other photo in the mail is actually my daughter uh she was born with a profound curing Lots in her left ear so she's profoundly deaf in her left ear when I think of uh what does resiliency look like to me she always comes to me and I aspire to be like her because I think of what she has navigated in her own life she went to nursing school she knew she wanted to be a nurse she started school right before Co happened when school closed she stepped up and she volunteered to come and work for me at my facility she took the CNA class she stepped up and volunteered to raise her hand to be in a a dedicated Co unit and be there until she could go back to school she's now a nicku nurse uh for a significant trauma Hospital in Rochester and I I say that again because through it all she navigated it with great and bounce back and uh I disrespect that so I I say that to you because I'd say resiliency comes in so many forms and I encourage you to look in the mirror and ask yourself about some of these characteristics that are common to a resilient leader how flexible are you you know a car bumper is in place to provide the bounce back in the event of collision to protect it its passengers a leader is like the car bumper in an organization they can handle bad news disgruntled opinions and listen and respond constructively how do you bounce back how do you adapt to change and see different perspectives and possibilities and are you agile can you pivot and change direction as quickly as a need arises When leaders are open to suggestions and willing to change how they do things they're agile and challenging circumstances resilient leaders can change their focus and they can foster High performing teams with this character istic and then realistic being realistic and optimistic and I say those hand inand because a resilient leader has to be simultaneously realistic and optimistic they can recognize the problem and look beyond the current situation to paint a positive picture of what's on the other side of the challenging situation they can acknowledge the problem or the bad feelings associated with it but they can also be optimistic about getting to the other side and not get sucked into the black hole of negativity of pessimism and that kind of leads into emotional intelligence and I talk a lot about this with my team and the people that I coach and Mentor the ability to understand your own emotions but also recognize the emotions of those around you and I really talk about this from a leadership perspective especially uh how you show up every day yourself but also how you recognize and understand how someone else is feeling and responding and can can react to that and help bring them through a situation in a calm U manner as well um locus of control this is an interesting one talk a lot about this with my CEO um and it's it's trying to avoid that spiral of getting panicked by what you can't control this is a resilient leader has a great ability to focus on what can be controlled and breaks down situations into controllable and uncontrollable categories to make those situations more manageable instead of getting sucked into the drama triangle and it's okay if you didn't answer yes to all these questions we're all a work in progress but these are skills that are learned practiced refined over time what can you do today to be a more resilient leader today and tomorrow and I encourage you to practice some of this so what are some of those things that I think of and ways to increase your resiliency and a lot of these we've touched on today um but I recently read in a Forbes Magazine an article about a study that highlights women's resilience which said resiliency is more than just the ability to bounce back quickly it's the ability to recover healthfully in a healthier way with a better perspective but it takes practice right and a commitment to self is not just caring for everyone else I I I give a shout out to Bri I saw your comments I'm always overwhelmed I still feel overwhelmed sometimes every day but how we use the tools we have in our toolbox and how we manage our emotions and our feelings to navigate through that is is critical to our ability to be resilient and to be good leaders and individuals so it's not surprising that women who feel resilient personally show uh higher self-care Trends 45 of those that that for survey said mental health is a top priority in 43% schedule regular me time now I'd be curious in the chat to get an ideas of how you show up to schedule me time you know they say there's a reason that flight attendant always tell parents of small children to put their oxygen Mass on first if you're not taking proper care of yourself how can you be effective at caring for others and I hear my CEO say that all the time so think about reframing how you think and practicing thought awareness and a lot of that is accepting that change as part of living I know our speakers have touched on it today avoid seeing a crisis as an insurmountable problem resilient people understand that although a situation or crisis may seem overwhelming it may not have much of an impact over the long term and that's a lot of how we even approach crisis management when I'm dealing with the media is what do I want the outcome to be how can I be as transparent as I need to be and help calmly navigate that situation for the best outcome from an organization setting goals of course doing something regularly as we've talked about especially self-care um I know we've talked about I love the questions that Megan had the and I won't go through those but but kindness doing something for yourself every day I purposely block spots on my calendar three times a week just to have thinking time so that I can be more productive and I also made a conscious effort a couple of years ago recognizing I was trying to balance my family my husband time my work time made a conscious decision that I don't check emails on the weekend if there's an emergency my leadership team knows how to reach me they can text me I get online but I'm giving that time back to myself and my family and that's my balance and I loved actually the comment about from Cheryl about integration it's less about balance and more about integration how do you infuse that in your life to give that time and that permission to yourself to give that time back because often as women we don't we're not we're afraid to give that permission to oursel that it's okay to do these things for myself and I get a facial twice a month or or every two months it's a luxury but it's said you know what I earned it I've I've worked since I was 16 I'm going to give this back to myself and that is my quiet time my phone is off so whatever it is that makes you happy Do It um and that's practicing self-care and building your circle um we all talk about this I would say building your circle is important with your friends we talk about mentors but I also when I coach people on this find the Y to your yang find someone who's going to challenge your thinking and challenge you to be better but is someone you trust and can be a great advisor we often lean toward the people that are going to just make us feel good or think like we do and I found a couple of times the person in in my circle who really makes me think differently helps me see that new perspective and and really come up with that alternative solution to a problem I might be facing so I encourage you to do that and then choose happiness trying to maintain a hope a hopeful it's easy to say but what's interesting and I look at my own circle of friends I've probably had more conversations in the last two years about my female friends mostly those who work wanting to really find Joy again in their jobs do something that gives them purpose not feel like they have to work hard to earn a paycheck it's been it's been an interesting Dynamic and some of it's an outcome of covid but I also think it's it's really recognizing that there's more life than a trying to be just a hard worker and a great leader for an organization we have to show up for ourselves so again I encourage you to pick one or two of these simple tips to focus on practice pay attention I just actually myself came off of a a great leadership program called the Stan Academy highly recommend it uh great focus on purposeful leadership but one of the things that we were encouraged to do with our coach was journaling and some of it wasn't easy it wasn't a great practice but I found that that practice really changed the dynamic of my year and has made me a better leader and a better person and and a lot of it helped me in my relationships with my family so a couple of resources I know we've had some ideas throwing out these are the things that I like that that I have reflected on as benefits to me as I think about all of the these things that I'm trying to balance and become more resilient of course I'm sure all of us have read B bernee Brown She interestingly also talks a lot about spirituality and finding uh and how finding purpose fuels resiliency and I think that's a dynamic we haven't hit on as much today and I think that's an interesting perspective she brings but I also love the power of Ted and if nobody's read the power or some of you haven't read the power of Ted it's a fable based story but it really talks about how to shift your perspective from drowning in the drama triangle and really looking at how can you be a Creator and a coach and taking personal accountability for the outcomes you really want I I've done this with my own team recently and I've seen such a shift in how we approach things that we're hearing in the organization you know workplace can be a a drama time time suck and how do you pull yourself out of that how do you change the dynamic and it's a great read I also love the com app that's often my um my morning ride into work I stopped listening to the radio because I found the intensity of it was just amping me up so I'd come into work already ready to roll I love things in the com app I also found the new happy so you know we say be positive be happy this is just a light kind of fun way to just get tips on um really refocusing your mindset and not trying and understand you can't you can't um control everything um I also have gotten into meditation and I'd say it's not easy for me there are days when I'd love to go home and chug three glasses of wine then uh try to practice yoga or sit through a 10-minute meditation session but I'm getting better with practice uh and I also was encouraged by my coach my professional coach to try centering and I will tell you it was horrible in the first couple of months because I sitting still as a consumate multitasker was incredibly difficult for me to just sit there and center and and clear my head but now it's a practice that I'm looking to extend into my own team to start meetings off with so that we're focused um and I I'll just kind of leave you with those tools the last thing I'll share here and I thought this was a fun tool to share with each of you I did this myself there's an online site that has a resiliency quiz you can go through in about five minutes and it will um show you how resilient you are and it'll give you some recommendations on some things that you can uh you know maybe think about in trying to improve in certain areas because we're not perfect we could practice different things but it all just helps end up bringing us to a place where we feel healthier and happy so I'll stop there because I know we've had a lot today I'll stop sharing just so that I can see everybody see if there's uh questions or any thoughts about what I what I've shared with
you I don't know if there's anything in the chat I well Julie thank you so much yes I've been a terrible host today and I've let us go completely over time so for Q&A maybe Julie can stay around for a minute and answer some of the questions that have come in on the Q&A but I just want to say thank you that was a fantastic presentation and we really appreciate your time today sure sure